programs. only 38% think it's going to actually reduce the deficit. so, here we've got a debt problem, some would say a crisis, and people are just not confident that we're going to address it, certainly not with new taxes. >> well, that's right. and look, skepticism about politicians is as old an as america, part of our cultural dna. in fact, i was surprised only 4% think this'll spend the money instead of using it as they promise. and one of the other things that we're seeing and i think this is really important in these discussions, if you ask people about across the board spending cuts, what everything is included, everything is on the cable. 65% say that's a good idea. but if you take something off the table and say, cut everything, but the military, support falls to 42%, so americans want to make sure that this is not something that singles out a pet project for exemption and protection. >> if people think like this about the future of health care and think like this about debt. how come they reelected president obama? how did this happen? >> well, to some degree they didn't think it'